Why is the Imperium so technologically clueless?
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Why is the Imperium so technologically clueless?
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Have you read Isaac Asimov's Empire? A lot of this comes from that series
There are three issues preventing technological advancement:
1. Adeptus Mechanicus
2. Inquisition
3. Fanbase
Things that improve technological advancement:
1. Adeptus Mechanicus
2. Inquisition
3. Fanbase
4. Roboutte Guilliman
That's why Tau is my Favourite Faction!!
Except……in the real world, massive wars aparked most of our technological innovations. Its soley the fault of rhe mechanicus HERETICS!
There's also the issue of the golden age of humanity created technological wonders through high scientific understanding along with AI assistance
So now without either of those how can a mere mortals make improvements on such designs without making them worse?
Suddenly becomes a lot more logical to just travel the stars to find existing perfect designs than attempt to innovate
Just waiting for the Mechanicus to realize that the Omnissiah is a C'tan Frgament
I think sometimes the lore collapses under its own weight. It's true that the core Imperium is corrupt and hostile to innovation, but also true that the Imperium is so "expansive" that it's impossible to attribute any single characteristic to it that's all encompassing. If there is worlds inside the Imperium that consider the Space Marines to be near mythical inventions or legends, then surely they are equally unaware of the Inquisition or perhaps even the Emperor or much of the official lore. Billions, even trillions might live and die without even grasping they are part of a wider political entity than their own planet or even their own hive. So equally, there could be many, maybe even a majority of worlds, which innovate without any fear of the Inquisition or Space Marines. Because they are just legends, right?
Basically – the more incomprehensibly large the Imperium needs to be in the lore to endure the incomprehensibly horrific terrors of the galaxy, the harder it becomes to enforce a single ideology upon the same political entity becomes.
History has shown us that human creativity soars during war times. We have perfected ways to kill each other. I guess in the 40k universe this is religious zealotry.
Another problem, Tzeentch exists and since he has been empowered through the Horus Heresy, That idea you thought was your own could really be a Tzeentch Trojan Virus since you have no gods or super psykers to fend their corruption off.
There is technological progression and advamcements. Even if we ignore the primaris. Rekic weapons are litteralyone forgeworld improvi g in a existing design.
For excample a thunder hammer. But sharing this design with other forgeworlds would take away what makes them now special and valuable to the imperium at large and as such they keep it to themselfes. If they are then inevetably destroyed the design is lost with them, leaving only the "few" improved weapons they made and exported (here thunderhammers) to be ever mai tained but never replicated as the improvements are to majore to reverse engeneere with the lackluster generall sience knowledge of the imperium.
(in short. If a tank from 500 years in the future apeared in our time, complete with blueprint and designs for a factory then e could majntain and build them. If then a variant with no plams apears we could perhaps maintain it but not replicate it. Thats what the imperium currently faces)
Sounds like one of the major flaws of the Halo Covenant
Kinda dumb reason.
War has been the Thing that made technology progress the fastest.
WW1 to WW2 went from horses to the first wide spread of computers
A spand of 31 years.
Planes became a Thing, cars became wide spread and computers became smaller and more than just math machines
Also after the men of iron rebellion the imperium was scared that technological innovation could have another disaster happening
The Emperor's worst mistake was not glassing Lorgars homeworld when he first found it. It was allowing a cult of technophile zealots to survive
last point does not make sense looking at nazis
Because they're like modern humans, too afraid to innovate.
Your last point it's not very salient, conflict breeds innovation. The internet was created literally because of War and a million other crucial things were too.
Unless you're Tyranids the true inheritors of the universe
Such a civilization that is aggressive will be quickly destroyed going against a civilization that is rapidly progressing.
"Whilst in a constant state of conflict, survival will always trump progress."
Goddamn. You don't know how TRUE those words are…
Yeah and we all know wartime never creates the prefect conditions for technological advancement! …wait a minute.
Don't forget the type of people who would innovate appears to have a large overlap with potential psykers…
Yes, because historically, being at war in when there is a drought of technological advances…wait.
Meaningless games and stories
If they advanced just slightly like once they would have such an advantage most couldn't stsnd against them.
That seems really counterintuitive, through progress you could better achieve survival with better technology, techniques, etc. But I guess that's the imperium for you.
Chat gpt that has been loaded with liberal ideas. 😂
Meanwhile, the Tau:
There is no new technology since himanity Has had total sum of knowlage(everything has been invented during DAoT) why waste man power and time trying to reinvent the wheel when STC for it is out here you just have to find it
That's what quest for knowlage in mechanicus is
the change management alone on a roll-out project at an org the size of the imperium makes it pretty much a statistical impossibility that any given change effort will reach any given soldier.
What is that image at the end? It looks like the Orks and Ultramarines teamed up or something.
What about the primaris?
So…this would actually be incorrect. Correct on what the situation is and why on the whole there wouldn't be technological advancement.
However, one thing that's sadly overlooked in writing is that no matter what, someone always is progressing technology. The more years pass, the more technology changes. It's the natural order
Even right now, technology advances in real life. Progress of it may slow down, but it always continues. This is true in any universe ever
Another reason is that while within the setting Imperium's technology development had stagnated…said tech is still absurdly advanced and powerful.
They still possess a stockpile of weapons that can scour life away from a planet. They still possess the means to make augmented super-humans that are a cross between mobile artillery and elite infantry.
The last reason is crap since war is the greatest source of tech development a d invention Ever. Survival is depending on it since the one falling behindert loses a war
I mean theres also the whole men of iron ai uprising thing but that would need a bit of explaining that shorts dont allow.
The Imperium. If "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" was a dictatorship
As usual, cultists are to blame.
A common misconception is that the Adeptus Mechanicus is incapable of innovation. That is incorrect. They actively supress innovation because they've learned through long and bitter experience what innovation leads to. Chaos corruption, insanity and death on a planetary scale.
Good luck surviving with your thousands or corvettes once the Tau develop carrier cruisers.
I’ve always wondered about this. War always brings about better weapons of war. Both world wars show this and weapons are being developed to this day. How could after 10,000 years weapons weren’t advanced on. You could build them from the ground up so they have a new machine spirit. You can definitely study old machines they have to be serviced. Somebody has at the very minimum a rudimentary understanding of the older weapons. Idk kinda why I quit reading the books it just doesn’t make sense. Easy writing that way I guess.
But war drives innovation though
Never quite understood how they're meant to maintain technology without understanding how it works. How can you maintain something you dont understand? That's like a car mechanic not understanding how a car works.
Meanwhile Cawl not giving a shit and just doing some funky stuff
Sounds just like planet earth today.
This is the summary of W40K lore bullshit